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		<title>By: links for 2009-12-04</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] If people don’t want journalism, we have no right to make them have it &#124; Technovia Kevin: Ian Betteridge summarises a discussion that he had on Twitter with a number of digital journalists including Matthew Ingram and John Robinson. Ian puts forward an interesting argument that people too focused on what readers need and forgetting what people want engage in a &quot;puritan reductionism&quot; and &quot;paternalism&quot;. &quot;But if you treat journalism as some kind of “enabler of effective citizenship” you will never produce stories which are compelling, interesting, provoke real emotion – and yes, which entertain too.&quot; (tags: journalism democracy civics entertainment) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If people don’t want journalism, we have no right to make them have it | Technovia Kevin: Ian Betteridge summarises a discussion that he had on Twitter with a number of digital journalists including Matthew Ingram and John Robinson. Ian puts forward an interesting argument that people too focused on what readers need and forgetting what people want engage in a &quot;puritan reductionism&quot; and &quot;paternalism&quot;. &quot;But if you treat journalism as some kind of “enabler of effective citizenship” you will never produce stories which are compelling, interesting, provoke real emotion – and yes, which entertain too.&quot; (tags: journalism democracy civics entertainment) [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jordan Furlong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan Furlong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ian, thanks for your thoughts in this subject -- it&#039;s not easy to have a conversation like the one Mathew and I fell into 140 characters at a time, so I&#039;ll try setting out my perspective in some more detail here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My concern is that asking whether journalism should deliver what people want vs what they need is the most direct route towards reducing journalism to irrelevance. Journalism is important precisely because it digs into things that have greater importance than most people care to attach to them. Most people don&#039;t care that much about corporate or government abuses of power, or about the impact tomorrow of billions of dollars borrowed and spent today -- they don&#039;t perceive that it affects their lives, or they&#039;re made uncomfortable by the subject matter, or they don&#039;t want their existing beliefs challenged. What people want is to be comforted and entertained, and they&#039;ve been asking their news organizations to do that for quite some time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A lot of journalists have apparently decided they&#039;re OK with that. But when you let the &quot;merry actions of the free market&quot; decide what&#039;s news and what isn&#039;t, you end up with what we saw yesterday: a troop surge of 30,000 US soldiers in Afghanistan getting less coverage and analysis than a golfer&#039;s extramarital affairs. And this sort of thing has been going on for years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t get me wrong: I&#039;m a free-market proponent in most regards, and I hardly want to see the state get into the news business. But journalism is a hybrid beast: it&#039;s a major social good, but it&#039;s one of the very few (maybe the only?) that&#039;s provided by the private sector. Its function and benefits are universal, but it&#039;s a captive of the market, which is one of the reasons why it&#039;s so difficult to fund properly. But long before the Net wrecked the current model, news was in decline -- for years now, the choice and presentation of &quot;news&quot; has been driven primarily (and in some cases exclusively) by a desire to generate revenue, and that&#039;s not what news is for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We need a responsible, independent, functioning press in order to capably and effectively play our role as citizens. Nothing in that statement implies spoonfed pablum or paternalism; it&#039;s a fact of civic life that I hear many journalists regularly invoke as their raison d&#039;etre. Nor is there anything in that statement that says important stories can&#039;t be well-told -- of course they can, and they should be. That&#039;s why journalism still prizes writing ability so highly, and why we don&#039;t just go out and hire auditors and forensic accountants to serve as reporters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We need news that sifts truth out of the endless skeins of deception, spin and trivia, and makes it available to everyone who&#039;s interested. Maybe no one&#039;s interested -- maybe all we care about really is Tiger Woods and Lady Gaga and Adam Lambert. Fine -- we can take that up with the civics teachers in school, if we can find them. But even if the market for important, necessary news is small, we still need to serve it as best we can. That&#039;s really all I&#039;m trying to say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks again for taking the conversation forward.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, thanks for your thoughts in this subject &#8212; it&#8217;s not easy to have a conversation like the one Mathew and I fell into 140 characters at a time, so I&#8217;ll try setting out my perspective in some more detail here.</p>

<p>My concern is that asking whether journalism should deliver what people want vs what they need is the most direct route towards reducing journalism to irrelevance. Journalism is important precisely because it digs into things that have greater importance than most people care to attach to them. Most people don&#8217;t care that much about corporate or government abuses of power, or about the impact tomorrow of billions of dollars borrowed and spent today &#8212; they don&#8217;t perceive that it affects their lives, or they&#8217;re made uncomfortable by the subject matter, or they don&#8217;t want their existing beliefs challenged. What people want is to be comforted and entertained, and they&#8217;ve been asking their news organizations to do that for quite some time.</p>

<p>A lot of journalists have apparently decided they&#8217;re OK with that. But when you let the &#8220;merry actions of the free market&#8221; decide what&#8217;s news and what isn&#8217;t, you end up with what we saw yesterday: a troop surge of 30,000 US soldiers in Afghanistan getting less coverage and analysis than a golfer&#8217;s extramarital affairs. And this sort of thing has been going on for years.</p>

<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong: I&#8217;m a free-market proponent in most regards, and I hardly want to see the state get into the news business. But journalism is a hybrid beast: it&#8217;s a major social good, but it&#8217;s one of the very few (maybe the only?) that&#8217;s provided by the private sector. Its function and benefits are universal, but it&#8217;s a captive of the market, which is one of the reasons why it&#8217;s so difficult to fund properly. But long before the Net wrecked the current model, news was in decline &#8212; for years now, the choice and presentation of &#8220;news&#8221; has been driven primarily (and in some cases exclusively) by a desire to generate revenue, and that&#8217;s not what news is for.</p>

<p>We need a responsible, independent, functioning press in order to capably and effectively play our role as citizens. Nothing in that statement implies spoonfed pablum or paternalism; it&#8217;s a fact of civic life that I hear many journalists regularly invoke as their raison d&#8217;etre. Nor is there anything in that statement that says important stories can&#8217;t be well-told &#8212; of course they can, and they should be. That&#8217;s why journalism still prizes writing ability so highly, and why we don&#8217;t just go out and hire auditors and forensic accountants to serve as reporters.</p>

<p>We need news that sifts truth out of the endless skeins of deception, spin and trivia, and makes it available to everyone who&#8217;s interested. Maybe no one&#8217;s interested &#8212; maybe all we care about really is Tiger Woods and Lady Gaga and Adam Lambert. Fine &#8212; we can take that up with the civics teachers in school, if we can find them. But even if the market for important, necessary news is small, we still need to serve it as best we can. That&#8217;s really all I&#8217;m trying to say.</p>

<p>Thanks again for taking the conversation forward.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CraigGrannell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigGrannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ianbetteridge Hell, even most videogames mags aren&#039;t entertaining these days, despite writing about entertainment.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ianbetteridge Hell, even most videogames mags aren&#8217;t entertaining these days, despite writing about entertainment.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CraigGrannell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigGrannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ianbetteridge Another great post. As for the ents angle, lots of dry magazines would be hugely improved with an &#039;entertainment&#039; injection.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ianbetteridge Another great post. As for the ents angle, lots of dry magazines would be hugely improved with an &#8216;entertainment&#8217; injection.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pdouglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdouglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ianbetteridge Very good post. Something I grapple with daily - traffic vs need to know. Great storytelling, as you point out, offers both&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ianbetteridge Very good post. Something I grapple with daily &#8211; traffic vs need to know. Great storytelling, as you point out, offers both</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ianbetteridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>ianbetteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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